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{{infobox soldier
| name           = Herbert Fuhrmann
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| image           = [[File:Fuhrmann_Herbert_L.jpg|border|400px]]
 
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| caption         = Sunday Times 2 Sep 1917 page 6S
| title          = Herbert Fuhrmann
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| dateofbirth   = c1878
 
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| placeofbirth   = Stawell, Victoria
 
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| death           = 8 Aug 1917
|  image        = [[File:Fuhrmann_Herbert_L.jpg|border|400px]]
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| placeofdeath   = Messines, Belgium
| caption       = Sunday Times 2 Sep 1917 page 6S
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| enlistmentage   = 38 years, 5 months
|   image2       =  
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| description   = 5'6½" (1.69m) tall; weight 128lbs (58.1kg); fresh complexion, grey eyes, brown hair
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| height          = 5'6½" (1.69m)
 
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| weight          = 128lbs
|headerstyle  = background:#ccf;
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| complexion      = fresh
|labelstyle   = background:#ddf;
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| eyes            = grey
|datastyle    =
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| hair            = brown
 
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| descriptionnote =
| header1  = Personal Information
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| occupation   = Timber hewer
 
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| religion   = Church of England
|  label2  = Date of Birth
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| address   = Jarrahdale, Western Australia
data2  = not known 1878
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| relation   = Father
|  label3  = Place of Birth
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| nextofkin      = Mr. Charles Fuhrmann
|  data3  = Stawell, Victoria
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| regnumber   = [https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4001365 4805]
 
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| enlistmentdate = 24 Dec 1915
| label4  = Death
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| rank           = Private
|  data4  = 8 Aug 1917
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| unit      = 16th Battalion, 15th reinforcement 9 Platoon, C Company / 4th Brigade, 4th Division
 
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| embarkationdatefrom = 1 Apr 1916
|  label5  = Place of Death
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| embarkationdateto = 25 Apr 1916
data5  = Messines, Belgium
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| shipembarked   = [[HMAT A38 Ulysses]]
 
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|  label6  = Age at Enlistment
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| embarkationdatefrom2 =
data6  = 38 years, 5 months
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| shipembarked2   =  
|  label7  = Description
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| embarkedshipnote2 =
data7  = 5'6½" (1.69m) tall; weight 128 lbs (58.1kg); fresh complexion, grey eyes, brown hair.
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| dateofreturnfrom =
 
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| dateofreturnto =  
| label8  = Occupation
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| shipreturned    =
|   data8  = timber hewer
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| dateofreturnfrom2 =
| label9  = Religion
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| dateofreturnto2 =  
data9  = Church of England
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|  label10  = Address
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| fate1           = Killed in Action 8 Aug 1917 Messines area
data10  = Jarrahdale, Western Australia
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| fate3          =
| label11 = Next of Kin
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| fate4          =
|   data11 = Father  Mr Charles Fuhrmann
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| monument1   = [[Jarrahdale]]
 
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| monumentnote1  =
| header12 = Military Information
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| monument2   = [[Menin Gate Memorial]]
 
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| monumentnote2  =
|  label13 = Reg Number
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| monument3   =
data13 = [https://recordsearch.naa.gov.au/SearchNRetrieve/Interface/ViewImage.aspx?B=4001365 4805]
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label14 = Date of Enlistment
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|  data14 = 24 Dec 1915
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| label15 = Rank
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| monument6   =
|  data15 = Private
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| monumentawm    = [https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/R1730041 Australian War Memorial]
| label16 = Unit/Formation
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| monumentawmnote =
|  data16 = 16th Battalion, 15th reinforcement 9 Platoon, C Company / 4th Brigade, 4th Division
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| monumentother  =
 
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| monumentothernote =
| label17 = Date of Embarkation
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| medal1   = [[British War Medal]]
|   data17 = 1 Apr 1916 - 25 Apr 1916
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| medal2          = [[Victory Medal]]  
 
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|  label18 = Ship Embarked On
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| medal4          =
data18 = [[HMAT A38 Ulysses]]
 
 
 
| label19 = Date of Return
 
data19 =  
 
 
 
label20 = Ship Returned On
 
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label21 = Fate
 
|   data21 = Killed in Action 8 Aug 1917 Messines area
 
 
 
| label22 = Monument
 
data22 = [[Jarrahdale]]<br />[[Menin Gate Memorial]]<br />[https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/R1730041 Australian War Memorial]
 
 
 
| label23 = Medals
 
data23 = [[British War Medal]]<br />[[Victory Medal]]  
 
 
 
 
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==War Service==
 
==War Service==
A month after commencing his basic training, Herbert was allocated to the 15th reinforcement draft for the 16th Battalion and he trained and travelled with them to Egypt.
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A month after commencing his basic training, Herbert was allocated to the 15th reinforcement draft for the 16th Battalion and he trained and travelled with them to Egypt. In Egypt on 7 Jun 1916 he managed to be both AWOL for a few hours, and to then be admitted to hospital with Measeles. On 11 Jun 1916 he embarked with the 15th Training Battalion for England aboard [[HMT Aragon]].
  
In Egypt on 7 Jun 1916 he managed to be both AWOL for a few hours, and to then be admitted to hospital with Measeles. On 11 Jun 1916 he embarked with the 15th Training Battalion for England aboard [[HMT Aragon]].
 
  
On 5 Jul 1916 in England Herbert was admitted to the Fargo Hospital with Influenza, and on 1 Sep 1916 he entered the Rollestone hospital before being sent on to the [[1st Australian Dermatological Hospital]] Bulford, and did not return to his unit 4th Training Battalion) until 143 days later on 22 Jan 1917.
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On 5 Jul 1916 in England Herbert was admitted to the [[Fargo Military Hospital]] with Influenza, and on 1 Sep 1916 he entered the Rollestone hospital before being sent on to the [[1st Australian Dermatological Hospital]] Bulford> He did not return to the [[4th Training Battalion]] until 143 days later on 22 Jan 1917. On 8 Feb 1917 Herbert proceeded overseas to France on [[HMT Princess Victoria]], and on 13 Feb 1917 Herbert was finally taken on strength by the [[16th Battalion]].  
 
 
On 8 Feb 1917 Herbert proceeded overseas to France on [[HMT Princess Victoria]], and on 13 Feb 1917 Herbert was finally taken on strength by the 16th Battalion.  
 
 
   
 
   
From 3rd until 9th August 1917 A, B and C Companies were in the line in front of Messines, during which time they were on the receiving end of a lot of heavy German bombardments, and suffered heavy casualties. Reported as Killed in Action on 8 Aug 1917.
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From 3rd until 9th August 1917 A, B and C Companies were in the line in front of Messines, during which time they were on the receiving end of a lot of heavy German bombardments, and suffered heavy casualties. Herbert was reported as Killed in Action on 8 Aug 1917.
  
Herb's Red Cross file held at the Australian War Memorial provides us with a description of his death.<ref>https://s3-ap-southeast-2.amazonaws.com/awm-media/collection/RCDIG1045763/document/5633434.PDF accessed 28 Apr 2018 </ref>
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Herb's Red Cross file held at the Australian War Memorial provides us with a description of his death.<ref>{{cite web |url=https://www.awm.gov.au/collection/RCDIG1045763 |title=Australian Red Cross Wounded and Missing Files - Herbert Fuhrmann |author=<!--Not stated--> |date= 2018|website=Australian War Memorial |access-date=2 May 2018}}</ref>.
  
 
<blockquote>"I was close to Pte Fuhrmann (16.C.IX) when he was killed instantaneously by a trench mortar bomb on Aug 8th at Messines (Gaspaard). He was buried the same night in the open near a pill box by the front line. I helped to bury him myself and put a wooded cross up with his name and all particulars." '''6145 Pte John Sadlier'''.<br />
 
<blockquote>"I was close to Pte Fuhrmann (16.C.IX) when he was killed instantaneously by a trench mortar bomb on Aug 8th at Messines (Gaspaard). He was buried the same night in the open near a pill box by the front line. I helped to bury him myself and put a wooded cross up with his name and all particulars." '''6145 Pte John Sadlier'''.<br />
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==Post War==
 
==Post War==
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[[Category:1917 KIA]]
 
[[Category:1917 KIA]]
 
[[Category:1917 Deaths]]
 
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Latest revision as of 01:12, 12 September 2021

Herbert Fuhrmann
Fuhrmann Herbert L.jpg
Sunday Times 2 Sep 1917 page 6S
Personal Information
Date of Birth c1878
Place of Birth Stawell, Victoria
Death 8 Aug 1917
Place of Death Messines, Belgium
Age at Enlistment 38 years, 5 months
Description 5'6½" (1.69m) tall ; 128lbs
58.06 kg
; fresh complexion ; grey eyes ; brown hair
Occupation Timber hewer
Religion Church of England
Address Jarrahdale, Western Australia
Next of Kin Father , Mr. Charles Fuhrmann
Military Information
Reg Number 4805
Date of Enlistment 24 Dec 1915
Rank Private
Unit/Formation 16th Battalion, 15th reinforcement 9 Platoon, C Company / 4th Brigade, 4th Division
Date of Embarkation 1 Apr 1916 ‒ 25 Apr 1916
Ship Embarked On HMAT A38 Ulysses
Fate Killed in Action 8 Aug 1917 Messines area
Monument Jarrahdale
Menin Gate Memorial
Australian War Memorial
Medals British War Medal
Victory Medal



Pre War

Electoral Roll entries - 1909 a mill hand at William's Mill; 1912 a hewer with the State Mill, Dwellingup; 1916 a hewer at the 24 mile camp, Holyoake' Employed by the Millars Karri & Jarrah Company as a timber hewer, son of an American migrant to Victoria.

War Service

A month after commencing his basic training, Herbert was allocated to the 15th reinforcement draft for the 16th Battalion and he trained and travelled with them to Egypt. In Egypt on 7 Jun 1916 he managed to be both AWOL for a few hours, and to then be admitted to hospital with Measeles. On 11 Jun 1916 he embarked with the 15th Training Battalion for England aboard HMT Aragon.


On 5 Jul 1916 in England Herbert was admitted to the Fargo Military Hospital with Influenza, and on 1 Sep 1916 he entered the Rollestone hospital before being sent on to the 1st Australian Dermatological Hospital Bulford> He did not return to the 4th Training Battalion until 143 days later on 22 Jan 1917. On 8 Feb 1917 Herbert proceeded overseas to France on HMT Princess Victoria, and on 13 Feb 1917 Herbert was finally taken on strength by the 16th Battalion.

From 3rd until 9th August 1917 A, B and C Companies were in the line in front of Messines, during which time they were on the receiving end of a lot of heavy German bombardments, and suffered heavy casualties. Herbert was reported as Killed in Action on 8 Aug 1917.

Herb's Red Cross file held at the Australian War Memorial provides us with a description of his death.[1].

"I was close to Pte Fuhrmann (16.C.IX) when he was killed instantaneously by a trench mortar bomb on Aug 8th at Messines (Gaspaard). He was buried the same night in the open near a pill box by the front line. I helped to bury him myself and put a wooded cross up with his name and all particulars." 6145 Pte John Sadlier.

"he was killed at Gaspaard by shell in the front line trench. I started to dig his grave but we were relieved by another Battalion and left them to finish his burial. The grave was being dug just behind our line. he was in my platoon. Very quiet dark chap, under 30, medium height, came from Western Australia. We held the position for days and there was no reason why he should not be buried." 1739 Sgt Rogers.

  • Photo Linton Reynolds 2015
  • Furhmann Herbert Memorial.jpg

Post War

Herbert's father in Yarravile, Victoria received a pension of 15/- ($1.50) per fortnight from 25 Oct 1917.

Notes

His nephew 1573 Sgt Charles Franklin Fuhrman of the 10th Light horse Regiment died from Influenza on 13 Aug 1918.

  1. "Australian Red Cross Wounded and Missing Files - Herbert Fuhrmann". Australian War Memorial. 2018. Retrieved 2 May 2018. 

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